I Hate How Dead This Board Is

[Truthmusik]

This is f**ked up...this is a great board, there are plenty of producers with serious skills, and nobody is doing anything to get this board active...I know dude's got lives & whatnot, but I'm disappointed every time I come on here...

[substratumsounds]

Keep ya head up man! I think gettin a board to be really live just takes time. As long as we keep at it and keep the post real and informative it will happen. I know for me I'd rather read a post that really matters than scroll threw a 100 crap post to get to the 1 or 2 thats sayin somethin!

[Siver]

yea this site will pick up i'm sure...just give it some time

[Truthmusik]

I sure hope so...I first came here in April...and it's been dead the whole time...except for battle entries of course.

[SoundsForSamplers™]

truthmusik said:

I sure hope so...I first came here in April...and it's been dead the whole time...except for battle entries of course.

Well the board is only about 10 months old.
But yes it is a shame that we have SOO many members.
But all they do is come and download the sounds and maybe enter.

I am working 2 Jobs right now so I have not have time to find and add new content every day.
But with 2000 dam members there should ALWAYS be new content.

I think I'm going to have to put a post limit on the battles from now on.
Like you must have 40 quality posts to enter the next battle.

Any other ideas.

[bigvernthearkitekt]

The posts are very low for the amount of members there are. I do have to co-sign substratumsounds on

"I know for me I'd rather read a post that really matters than scroll threw a 100 crap post to get to the 1 or 2 thats sayin somethin! "


The thing I like is that people here seem to be pretty knowledgable. I've posted a couple legit questions and got some good feedback that really helped me out .

[beattempo]

I'm pretty new to this board, but I'll try and post more.

[bluevelvet]

i am new to this board and found it through ughh.com....ughh.com has tons of members but never any quality...on here i have had questions answered asap....

this board is just another case of 'QUALITY OVER QUANTITY'

like if you got 50 bucks to buy some weed are you gonna buy a 1/2o of dirt weed or are you gonna buy an 1/8 of that fire?

same principal

and to SOUNDS FOR SAMPLERS:

keep up the work...if you need help getting together anything let me know...

peace

[SoundsForSamplers™]

bluevelvet said:

i am new to this board and found it through ughh.com....ughh.com has tons of members but never any quality...on here i have had questions answered asap....

this board is just another case of 'QUALITY OVER QUANTITY'

like if you got 50 bucks to buy some weed are you gonna buy a 1/2o of dirt weed or are you gonna buy an 1/8 of that fire?

same principal

and to SOUNDS FOR SAMPLERS:

keep up the work...if you need help getting together anything let me know...

peace

Tanks man,thats real!
I go to many producer forums and see like 40 people logged on ,but then someone posts a question and all they get is sarcasm or worse.

[pezza]

I said this before and it's just my opinion but I think it's the layout. The content is here, and the vibe is really positive but I can't help but feel lost in the forum. Even down to the way the page loads when you visit it, the way it shifts and resizes until you finally get all the links, it does something to your head. I think it's that simple. On all the forums I go to the subforums are easy to access and the layout is simple and logical. In regards to posting if you start putting restrictions on people you'll turn some people away so you should look at what's stopping them from getting involved in the first place. For me it's the layout. It can look cool but it has to be simple and logical. I found this forum a while ago which may be helpful. www.webdesignforums.net/forumhome.php? Maybe there's someone there who has some solutions. That's my 2 cents spent. Hang in there homie, you've got a good thing going.

[The Future]

I Know Its Been Dead, But We Need To Start Making It Come Back To Life.

[Desertease]

Yea I think the layout should be changed too, it feels more like a big advertisement than a forum. Kinda hurts the eyes too. As for the battles i have some ideas that might work. If you wanna regulate people on entering the battles thats not gonna stop them from registering and downloading the samples, instead i would regulate in a different way. I noticed i get e-mails when the battle begins and shit so y not send the samples via e-mail and for those of us who receive the kit can enter and those who don't receive get e-mails talkin bout gettin to a post limit before they can be eligible for a battle. once they reach the goal of posts you would then have to set another rule such as maintaning a certain post count each month to stay eligible. Somethin in that area would deff. clean up the site a lil bit and get more people involved with it if they wanna be part of it. also as far as the forum goes the big thing i've noticed on forums these days besides the regulars is tutorials. get a big tutorial base going and you will have a lot of people here. everyone needs to learn something cuz no-one knows everything. sfs you got the mpc on lock so publish some tutorials on the site to stream and comment about, you could also do tutorials about software too such as fl,reason,cubase,etc. also using vst's, soundfonts, effects, musical theory, mixing techniques. if you have access to music equipment do reviews on them and post those vids. you see where i'm going with this? there is a lot of stuff that can be done to have this forum on top of all the other forums, the thing is......it needs to get done.. sfs if you don't have time to do all this stuff i'm sure us regulars wouldn't mind helping out some to get it going. lemme know what ya'll think of my ideas and if there any good or if i should just shut up!

peace

[joegallagher]

other than sfs we should just take the initiative, like trading sounds or post hard to look for samples...i'll dig up a kit and send it to whoever...as long as once in a while i can get something to flip once and a while. I'll get it done for anyone who wants to flip it..in the meantime i'm looking for some decent synths and bass to flip...

[temetrepo]

i just regged today, i'll try to help in any way i can
i gotta few kits ive done.
i'll be uploading a few as soon as i get a chance during the week to spice things up a bit.

[SoundsForSamplers™]

temetrepo said:

i just regged today, i'll try to help in any way i can
i gotta few kits ive done.
i'll be uploading a few as soon as i get a chance during the week to spice things up a bit.

Uploading sounds will not help things,people only come here to download battle kits as it is,we need posters.

[temetrepo]

sure thing admin
i'll look for some tutz i got and post a few to motivate ppl and stuff

[glbeats]

true

[SoundsForSamplers™]

temetrepo said:

sure thing admin
i'll look for some tutz i got and post a few to motivate ppl and stuff

good lookin out

[rhomboid]

hey
honestly, i think the best thing you can do is to get rid of all the flash/animatied .gifs and banners. Clean up the design. All you need is a title banner link to the main site.
The first thing i do when i hit this board is to disable all flash and java and all page colours as it runs faster on my shitty home pc and is a much more enjoyable reading experience.

All that "eye-candy" also makes the board look amateurish and I think that puts a lot of people off.

In terms of content, it'll come. I really hate those boards where there are 100 replies to a topic and they are all like
"DoPe IsH hOmIe"
"whut?"
"nutttin, jus chilln"
"nah, aint feeli dat ish mang"

and so on and so forth.

I agree with pezza that Quality is WAYY more important than Quantity. The battles are a great way to bring people here, but if you want to keep them here than you need to simplify and clean up the design. I'm studying web design and we get taught that if someone thinks a site looks cluttered, they'll click back. This board looks cluttered.
There is some good content and a handful of people who contribute regularly and there is very little bullshit, it's a shame that it gets lost amongst the spinning mpcs and banners etc.

B

[SoundsForSamplers™]

rhomboid said:

hey
honestly, i think the best thing you can do is to get rid of all the flash/animatied .gifs and banners. Clean up the design. All you need is a title banner link to the main site.
The first thing i do when i hit this board is to disable all flash and java and all page colours as it runs faster on my shitty home pc and is a much more enjoyable reading experience.

All that "eye-candy" also makes the board look amateurish and I think that puts a lot of people off.

In terms of content, it'll come. I really hate those boards where there are 100 replies to a topic and they are all like
"DoPe IsH hOmIe"
"whut?"
"nutttin, jus chilln"
"nah, aint feeli dat ish mang"

and so on and so forth.

I agree with pezza that Quality is WAYY more important than Quantity. The battles are a great way to bring people here, but if you want to keep them here than you need to simplify and clean up the design. I'm studying web design and we get taught that if someone thinks a site looks cluttered, they'll click back. This board looks cluttered.
There is some good content and a handful of people who contribute regularly and there is very little bullshit, it's a shame that it gets lost amongst the spinning mpcs and banners etc.

B

No offence bro,I do apreciate any feedback about the forum.
But what flash? we have no flash.
I have 1 gif,im not taking down the one random Soundsforsamplers add the comes up on the left.
You mean I worked for years designing the forum and I can`t have one add one it,f**k that yo.
If you want help this place get more then your 20 posts and add content.

You see the yellow lines that run vertically doen the forum,well all adds of on the OUTSIDE of them,all content is on the INSIDE of them.
That ain`t going to change anything,I have no idea the mentality of someone that would not post due to a add from the forum sponser..
Thats fricken insane,why would someone even post that.
ALL Websites have adds from their sponsors, ALL of them,that is the way of the web..
Thats how the internet works.
The fact there are not any flash and the gif take up almost NO space and cause NO loading time..

shame that it gets lost amongst the spinning mpcs and banners etc.

Thats the craziest shit I even heard,how can anything get lost when the add don`t move anywhere,and it not even in the posting part.
It in the dam external part of the forum ..EXTERNAL!!!

I just cleaned up the design of the site last month as well..
People always have something to cry about,never mind that the place looks way better ,or have more features then any production forum I know,or always have freash samples fro battles..
Forget all that right lets not post here cuz they have external addes that are no where near any type in the forums and interfear with nothing..
Great sugestion buddy.



Now here are the facts,people don`t care about the one Sfs add at all,they care about the content in the forums,its like a newspaper.
The fact is since no one really posts any content the forum suffers..
If you want to help any forum ,its easy,you post content..
NOTHING else matters ,a web forum is judged by the new and archived content it holds.
This forum only has people posting in battles,and that has been its downfall ,not my one SFs add,or its layout.


When this place (it it ever does) picks up ,sure I will spends time and money making it the beat looking and functioning forum EVER,but at this point I have done enough for what is being given back by its members..

[SoundsForSamplers™]

Now for the cold hard facts about the adds and layout being a NON issue.

I have another NON music related forum,with just about the same layout as this one,but it has 4 random ads on every corner of each page (not just one like this forum)

At anytime a day it has about 40 people logged in at ant time and about 300 postes a day from its members.
With about 15 new members a day.
(Here we don`t even get 300 posts a month when a battle is on )

At my other forum people add content,and the forum runs itself due to it.
It has the same fretues as this forum and NO ONE complanes about the little random adss,even having WAY more then this board.


That what pisses me off about this place,since I have already created sucessful forums and this one just wont take off.
But production forum on a whole are on a declive not just this place.

[Desertease]

for real tho they are on the decline and my reason for thinking like that is this: when someone posts a beat and you give them constructive criticism they get offended and tell u that u don't kno wut ur talkin about and act like there beat is the greatest thing ever created......if u didn't want a critic then y u post it up???or the spammers that come into producer forums and post beats and try to sell em to us lol......i'm way off topic but u know wut i'm sayin

[rhomboid]

whoa, easy tiger.

if you gonna shoot me down for criticising then I'm not gonna post AT ALL. .. .

When I say flash i'm talking about the .gifs (they were probably made in flash or Adobe IR, right?) I can see two right now.

People DO care about layout. In fact, it's way more important, on first impressions, than content. No offense, but this board is tiny. If toy look at any big board (10,000 active mebers+) the layouts are clean with UNIMPOISING ads.

Maybe the reason this board is dead is that you get so offended when someone offers an opinion.
and..
"I just cleaned up the design of the site last month as well.."

um, it's really messy and looks like crap.

Check these;
www.rocbeats.com/
forums.undergroundhiphop.com/
underworldhiphop.com/forum/

Much cleaner layouts, less ads and, WOW!!!!, more posters!
IT MATTERS A HUGE AMOUNT. BELEIVE ME.

The main site has 7 (seven!!!) different navigations, some of them do the same thing.
Side-to-side-scrolling on a 800x600 monitor res?
Flash embedded into the middle of an over-busy HMTL page, is this '95?
When you click on a (mpc model) link i have to click AGAIN to get to the page.
White text on a ight BG??? ; www.akaimpc.com/mpc3000.html

That is just bullshit.
Don't act like you know what you're talking about when you design a site like akaimpc.com

It's fine to criticise opinions but at least take them on board man. Otherwise people will never post on your board.

B

[rhomboid]

Maybe a better example is the Gearslutz board;

www.gearslutz.com/board/index.php

nice, CLEAN layout, 2 banner links. Neutral colour scheme. OVER 1 MILLION POSTS. See for yourself.

The content is really good too, for the most part anyway. It's a lot more "serious" than this board though. Mostly for engineers and producers, rather than beatmakers.

[SoundsForSamplers™]

Well im no super dope web designer,I can`t do a site that looks as dope as rock beats and stuff.
My entire site has needed a revamp for years.
This I all know to well..
I try my best,but I do everything myself..
Me being a wack webmaster has nothing to do with this forum never taking off.
I'm sure if this place looked doper then any other forum it would not matter if people didn`t add content..

I personally happen to like how this forum looks,it looks way better them my main site I think.
For a forum is also has a shit load of features that more then make up for any design issues.

I respect you opining though,I was not jumping down your throat.
I just know its hard for a production forum to get up and running and wanted to express that in indeed people want to help this place they should just post more..

Peace rhomboid and much love
SFS

rhomboid said:

whoa, easy tiger.

if you gonna shoot me down for criticising then I'm not gonna post AT ALL. .. .

When I say flash i'm talking about the .gifs (they were probably made in flash or Adobe IR, right?) I can see two right now.

People DO care about layout. In fact, it's way more important, on first impressions, than content. No offense, but this board is tiny. If toy look at any big board (10,000 active mebers+) the layouts are clean with UNIMPOISING ads.

Maybe the reason this board is dead is that you get so offended when someone offers an opinion.
and..
"I just cleaned up the design of the site last month as well.."

um, it's really messy and looks like crap.

Check these;
www.rocbeats.com/
forums.undergroundhiphop.com/
underworldhiphop.com/forum/

Much cleaner layouts, less ads and, WOW!!!!, more posters!
IT MATTERS A HUGE AMOUNT. BELEIVE ME.

The main site has 7 (seven!!!) different navigations, some of them do the same thing.
Side-to-side-scrolling on a 800x600 monitor res?
Flash embedded into the middle of an over-busy HMTL page, is this '95?
When you click on a (mpc model) link i have to click AGAIN to get to the page.
White text on a ight BG??? ; www.akaimpc.com/mpc3000.html

That is just bullshit.
Don't act like you know what you're talking about when you design a site like akaimpc.com

It's fine to criticise opinions but at least take them on board man. Otherwise people will never post on your board.

B