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Post by bluevelvet on Feb 17, 2007 21:39:58 GMT -5
alrite i know this has been available for a while, but i every since new years day i can't stop bumping this shit....consequence and strong arm steady kill it!!!
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Post by The Future on Feb 18, 2007 1:41:34 GMT -5
Most definately Liberation Is A Classic That Funny Money Song, Pure Crack.
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Post by j1 on Feb 21, 2007 7:50:55 GMT -5
i have all the respect in the world for talib kweli and he does a nice job on this, but i'm not a fan of madlib. something about the way he eqs his stuff or something just annoys me. similarly, i've never understood why so many people like the madvillain album. i could never get through it in one sitting.
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Post by bluevelvet on Feb 22, 2007 22:54:34 GMT -5
dude, madvillian?? are you serious?? that shit is heat...i fiendfor that sp sound....
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Post by j1 on Feb 23, 2007 8:45:57 GMT -5
i perfer operation doomsday and especially vaudeville villain. i like the production by king honey and heat sensor much more than anything i've heard from madlib.
but let me stress, it's mostly just the overall madlib sound i don't really like. if the beats were exactly the same but had a less grating sound i'd like em more. as they are they just get on my nerves.
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Post by bluevelvet on Feb 23, 2007 22:49:43 GMT -5
i can see why someone wouldn't feel madlib. he does get away with a lot of 'sloppy sequencing.' but the beats on liberation actually seem like they have better quality than some of his other projects. glad to hear that you do like doom though....
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Post by Truthmusik on Feb 25, 2007 2:50:45 GMT -5
Madlib is the man, he does all kinds of live instrumentation with a lot of his beats. Madvillainy is classic
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Post by j1 on Feb 25, 2007 13:12:38 GMT -5
i can see why someone wouldn't feel madlib. he does get away with a lot of 'sloppy sequencing.' but the beats on liberation actually seem like they have better quality than some of his other projects. glad to hear that you do like doom though.... of course i like doom. who doesn't these days? but i'm not gonna put him up on a pedastal like most people do. i think alot of his more recent stuff is half-assed. sorry to go off topic so much, but i'll say one more thing regarding madvillainy and i'll be done. i kind of have a problem with people calling something so new 'classic', but basically it comes down to symantics so it's not really a bid deal. but listen to something that's more deserving of the 'modern classic' label like liquid swords, one word extinguisher, prince among thieves, tragic epilogue, or the cold vein. you can't tell me there's not an obvious difference in quality between those and madvillainy. don't get me wrong. if you like it, good. that's just more good music you can listen to. but just because you call something classic doesn't mean it should be above criticism. to truth - i decided to re-lisen to madvillainy becuase i haven't tried in a while. there are 5 tracks i would consider good. the rest either annoys the hell out of me, is filler, or is pointless and should have never been included. so, that's what i think of your 'classic'. it's just a matter of personal taste. i'm not aware of any 'live instrumentation' in madlib's beats, but recently i did hear a couple of instrumental tracks combining samples and synths (similar to how el-p has done). those were pretty nice. |
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Post by bluevelvet on Feb 25, 2007 16:21:30 GMT -5
yo j1 all the albums youi listed are in constant rotation on my decks and my cd player. but for prefuse, i personally like uprock narratives and vocal studies. i like number 17 on madvillian a lot. probably my favorite on that cd. plus the quality of madvillian, is also part of why i like it. madlib eq's the crust of the sample into the beat and it in turn becomes part of the track..
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Post by Truthmusik on Feb 25, 2007 18:40:22 GMT -5
to truth - i decided to re-lisen to madvillainy becuase i haven't tried in a while. there are 5 tracks i would consider good. the rest either annoys the hell out of me, is filler, or is pointless and should have never been included. so, that's what i think of your 'classic'. it's just a matter of personal taste. i'm not aware of any 'live instrumentation' in madlib's beats, but recently i did hear a couple of instrumental tracks combining samples and synths (similar to how el-p has done). those were pretty nice. mad live drums, and the electric piano shit (that might be the synth style that your talking about, maybe not) but yo, how much of madlibs catalog? have you heard outside of Madvillain? He's got a style for every occasion. I don't know, I don't want to make this a big madlib arguement, but I think a lot more people feel him than not. |
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Post by j1 on Feb 26, 2007 11:52:33 GMT -5
i've heard a pretty good amount of his stuff.
lootpack's soundpieces, his mindfusion vol. 1,2,&3, movie scenes 1&2, shades of blue, blunted in the bomb shelter, the quasimoto albums, and alot of the yesterday's new quintet stuff.
plus various tracks he did on other's albums. the grind date comes to mind.
i like the ynq stuff the best. it's not great as far as jazz goes, but most of what i've heard is pretty good.
i'm not really sure what his role in that project is though.
the instrumental tracks i mentioned before are called chrome dreams and selah's childern.
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Post by Truthmusik on Feb 28, 2007 11:00:04 GMT -5
Shades of Blue is that shit. Have you heard the ynq Stevie Wonder remix joints? that shit is bananas.
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Post by j1 on Feb 28, 2007 18:35:18 GMT -5
nope. i'll check it out sometime
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Post by germproductions on Jun 19, 2007 21:15:46 GMT -5
sorry but i think that cd is wack as hell... you are crazy to say its a classic.
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Post by rhomboid on Jun 25, 2007 9:25:31 GMT -5
yo
i gotta go with j1 here. Madlib is probably the most hyped, overrated "producer" ever. Next to Dilla.
Most of thier stuff just sound sloppy to me, like they got 100 7" singles and a pound of skunk and locked themselved in a room with an SP1200 and a pair of 1210s.
I ain't heard that much (Quas, Donuts, Champion Sound, Beat Kodukta LPs and some individual tracks) so if you wanna change my opinion, post some track titles for me to check.
"but listen to something that's more deserving of the 'modern classic' label like liquid swords, one word extinguisher, prince among thieves, tragic epilogue, or the cold vein. you can't tell me there's not an obvious difference in quality between those and madvillainy"
WORD. How come Prefuse is so slept on amongst heads? And APC get dismissed as backpack music when they are one of the most important hip-hop crews (in terms of pushing the genre to new places) ever.
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Post by j1 on Jun 25, 2007 18:29:36 GMT -5
YES. thank you. you're one of the only people i've ever come across who even knows who antipop is.
that's some of my favorite music.
this is probably just conincidence, but there's a verse on the first song on liberation that kind of reminded me of m. sayyid.
maybe talib was influenced?
something about blue tooth and bruce bruce
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